Wednesday, April 18, 2018

IVC's new "School of IDEA." We kid you not.

200 people "came together." It was "spectacular"

     We here at IVC received this email today from the President's Office:
South Orange County Community College District Dedicates First Building at the Advanced Technology and Education Park

Officially Marking the Opening of Irvine Valley College’s School of Integrated Design, Engineering and Automation (IDEA) 
Over 200 people came together to mark the grand opening of the Integrated Design, Engineering and Automation (IDEA) building at the Advanced Technology and Education Park (ATEP) in Tustin. Following the ceremony, guests interacted with exhibits from community partners and programs within the School of IDEA.

Thank you to everyone who contributed to today’s spectacular event. The event would not have been possible without the teamwork that took place. It truly was an effort of the entire college and district to get the building ready for the celebration. 
     So was it the opening of the School? Or the opening of the building for the School?
     As usual, the President's Office doesn't know the difference. And doesn't care.
     Whose idea was it to name the new School (and building) "IDEA"? Glenn?
     Bad IDEA.
     I recall much groaning about that moniker at Academic Senate meetings a while back.
     There's a rumor that Saddleback's new building out at ATEP will house the new School of WTF. They haven't yet decided what the letters stand for.

A "filmmakers' village," but not at ATEP - DtB, December 2, 2011


30 comments:

Anonymous said...

Classified staff and other admin types were "encouraged" to leave IVC and join in the "festivities" to make it look better than it was. (Remember when Glenn sent out the email warning staff that they better not be watching the Obama inaugural on the college's dime? Apparently the opening of IDEA is a bigger, more vital historical event than the swearing in of America's first black president!)Even custodial staff from IVC were redirected there to spiff it up for the big day. Jeez - like we don't have enough to do where we are assigned!!! It's all about the photo op!!! Smile! Say stinky cheese! Say money pit!

Anonymous said...

Another lame email from the pio.

Anonymous said...

You mean the IVC classified staff in attendance felt pressure to abandon their desks at IVC and the students they were pledged to serve and drive across town for cookies and iced tea and balloons? (Yes, I remember when Glenn's email went reminding people they had job to do and no one better be tuning in on their computer monitors to watch Obama's inaugural...)

Anonymous said...

Wow, what a lame thing to complain about. I’m sure you helped yourself to breakfast while you were there. Sometimes work obligations- you know this is the place that pays you- call for being there for the photo opp. Boo hoo.

Anonymous said...

Sometimes your work obligations call you to fill in for the holes that PR - doing outreach to the campus and community - could not. I do think it's fair to point this out, especially since the board often can't see beyond the photo op optics. Can I say FAKE NEWS?

Anonymous said...


7:36

Its not just a lame thing to complain about, its completely ignoring all the folks who really worked hard to bring this day about. They worked hard while the rest of us stole coffee and pastry. I am not a fan of the ATEP site necessarily but sadly the Dissent complains about everything nowadays. Unless it happens in the classroom---their classrooms---nothing is going well at IVC.

Anonymous said...

Completely agree. Also, there are faculty who teach classes there. I'm sure they have a lot of pride in the new building, and understandably so. It's not cool to them and everyone else who worked on the project to be so unnecessarily negative about having to go to an event and eat breakfast.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have the Dissent write-up of the opening of the edifice now known as LAB? Was that roundly condemned as merely a photo op or was the building and the ribbon cutting championed? Just curious if there might be a double standard in coverage of such things - things that are routine at every college campus in the country.

Anonymous said...

In defense of Dissent, Roy's original grumbles seems to be about the name or acronym. (IDEA, etc.) It's the commentators who are addressing other matters which people have long grumbled about. It's no secret that there's been longstanding concerns about how much $$$$ ATEP was going to cost and its various incarnations. Remember when it was going to be an International Learning Village? Remember when it was going to have a soundstage and some song and dance group was going to do something there. OMG so much money, so many years, so much planning and re-planning. So yes, the usual grumbling jealousy about resources, limited resources, some (too many) squandered on the way to this latest incarnation of what we hope will be successful, viable. We'll see what Chris says at the next Instructional Council.

Don't get me started on the photo op business. How many time have we've been scooted away form our desks to show up to make the photos look good?



Anonymous said...

My hope is that ATEP will finally be sustainable. Good luck. Yes, let's see what Chris says in IC. Perhaps people would be less grumpy if there was ever a time or place for straight talk about issues.

Anonymous said...

Now will students come to ATEP? Let us hope so. The effort enormous. The money spent is doubly enormous. The frustrations many.

Let us hope this finally means something.

Anonymous said...

ATEP was originally going to home to some entertainment group called Camelot that Raghu was fond of...10 years ago or so. Money, money, money...

Anonymous said...

Everyone has a valid point about ATEP. It seems clear that after all these years ATEP is still a "campus" in search of an identity. What the hell is it supposed to be, and what students are they trying to serve? They still don't know. This goes all the way back to the Raghu regime, and the District is STILL flushing money down the drain trying to figure out what to do with it. The District needs to either pull the plug on the whole thing, or hire competent people to figure it out. At this point it seems that all the money would be better spent on developing programs at IVC.

Anonymous said...

10:33......too late!

Anonymous said...


Our problems have little to do with individuals anymore folks, or an ATEP site, we have a District that is too Management heavy and there are too many that need to justify their worth in approvals, processes, Workday systems, contracts, requests,committees, forms, more forms, more procedures.....blah blah blah. We have lost sight of the fact that the District exists to support the colleges and how we serve students and how we teach students. Nothing can or will happen until there is a paradigm shift on how we do things and how we make decisions. If every single thing we do first asks the question: "how will this improve/delay/harm/affect the colleges?" its a good start. We got real problems in this regard and too many looking the other way.

Anonymous said...

Dissent is MAGIC! The IVC Crime Blotter is updated - go take a look. Does anyone know how complete it is?

Anonymous said...

What is the criteria for an entry in the IVC crime blotter? Are ALL calls entered? Or is this an edited version. Who writes it? Curious.

Anonymous said...

Why all this hype about the IVC crime blotter? Is there something scintillating we should know about?

Anonymous said...

IDEA is being sustained by the Adult ESL department. All the students there are not learning photonics or laser tech. They are learning English, which is something many people have noticed and IVC adm. is ignoring. If it were not for all the ESL classes, there would be 0 students there. The laser program is a dumpster fire. The FT faculty quit. Open your eyes and ears and see it for what it is.

Anonymous said...

Shouldn't the numbers about enrollments show what you say 6:40? Where can we find them? Not all of us go to Instructional Council. Point the way.

yes, College Crime Blotters are required. I discovered this when looking at colleges and universities for my kid. Very helpful from the parents' POV. The IVC one (finally update after a mysterious lapse) seems very sparse. I can't imagine there are so few calls.

Anonymous said...

The Crime Blotter makes for good reading. I had no idea that the IVC PD assists the Irvine Police, the Secret Service and the FBI as well (see Crime Blotters entries). Does anyone know what the perimeters are of those relationships? Seems like those agencies are on our campus at times but do our officers ever leave campus to help them?

Anonymous said...

March 6, 1400 hours: Campus Police completed an assist for the Irvine Police Department regarding possible drug activity.

What is this entry about? How can we obtain more info?

Anonymous said...

Are you really so thick? Why would or should more information be available? Not everything is everyone’s business.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps something will be said at the next board meeting - it's this Monday right?

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Anonymous said...

A-100 fell out of favor with the vets because they were pressured into participating in dog and pony shows. It looked good to have vets fill the room. Foundation lunches were big laughs. Vets got stoned or loaded up on their meds before going just to keep their emotions in check. Now IVC has to assign staff to attend just to make sure the press has a picture. This too will end with the firing of staff who refuse to participate only to be replaced by those who will. Hell of a way to run a college.

Anonymous said...

RE: The Clery Act: "The institution's police department or security departments are required to maintain a public log of all crimes reported to them, or those of which they are made aware. The log is required to have the most recent 60 days' worth of information. Each entry in the log must contain the nature, date, time and general location of each crime and disposition of the complaint, if known."

It seems that SOME of the IVC Crime Blotters entries have the required info and others do not. For example, all though most "general locations" are mentioned - not all are. Disposition of the complaints is often missing.

Anonymous said...

About the Clery Act and violations:

https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2017/07/27/common-mistakes-avoid-when-trying-report-campus-crimes-essay

Anonymous said...

Roy, copy this blog entry and send it to each BOT member.

Some will (may) be less clueless.

Anonymous said...

The IDEA building is a bad IDEA.

Anonymous said...

Where did the IVC PD go to assist the Irvine PD? Shouldn't the blotter identify the location and the disposition of this event? Did it involve a student and/or employee?

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